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M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby tone_depear » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:21 pm

or D: C + stick it all on ebay as "untested". :oops:
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby Ozzy Mandeus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:07 pm

Epic photo filled update!

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DSCF0646 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Hmm, doesn't look rusty or knackered at all, and I'm sure nothing is going to be siezed or snap clean off while I'm removing that subframe....

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DSCF0647 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Oh, and the steering rack is attached to the subframe! Good job the bolts holding that on aren't horrible looking and rusty either.

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Subframe needs to drop down because this bolt won't withdraw as the shell of the car is in the way. Clever* design by MGR there.

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Interesting note on the bag the new arm bolts came in. Presumably having to remove most of the front end to get them in doesn't mean they are secure enough to stay put without threadlock.

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Clean and shiny new* bits. On an average normal car, it takes about an hour to fit some of these. On a citroen picasso or similar it might take a couple of hours because of their interesting ARB placement. On this? I'll let you know.

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Wheels off first. This won't take long, Tone said he already took these off once. Impact wrench once again failed to loosen the nuts. Large bar came into play...seven of the wheelnuts gave in to extreme force, The eighth one mangled its chrome cap instead...

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DSCF0652 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

and the nut underneath had no corners. What did I do? Wait for it......

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DSCF0653 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Yeah. Then I had to use a hammer to separate the wheel from the hub. So that's about half an hour gone already.

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Front arm mounting bolt is accessed through the holes in the front of the subframe - these are covered up with gaffa tape to prevent the subframe filling up with muck and rotting away.

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DSCF0655 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Steering rack bolts - very tight, very thin and with dodgy looking heads. Also not easily obtained because it's a horseshoe clamp rather than a nut and bolt... Gas time! Steering rack disconnected from subframe. One of the track rod ends broke though, the nut and threaded section sheared off instead of undoing. Never mind, I can get them...

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DSCF0657 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Subframe to floor bolts. I was being very gentle, and trying not to snap any of them off in the captive. As you can see, that worked well*.

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DSCF0658 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

REALLY well. That's the other side of the car....

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This is what I like to call a 33% successful job. Bugger and damnation.

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Taking no prisoners now, the shock absorber bottom bolt didn't want to undo.

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DSCF0662 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Another awkward one to replace, but it will need a new nyloc nut now.

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Other side tried the same trick!

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KILL IT WITH FIRE

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Ah, at last! Actually, it's not QUITE there. There was a bracket between the floor and the spare wheel well still holding it up.

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DSCF0667 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Yay! WOOOHOOO! Etc. Temporarily ignoring the fact that I can't actually put the subframe back because of the snapped bolts but it felt GOOD when that undid.

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DSCF0668 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

The old arm hit the floor, and bits of it fell off. This is the one the MoT man thought was safe.

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New bolt? CHECK! Locktite? CHECK! Four hands to fit the new arm? NOT CHECK!
One to hold the hub out of the way, one to hammer the arm into the subframe (damn bushes), one to manouver said arm while hammering and one to fit the bolt once it's lined up. BAH. Decided to tackle snapped bolt studs with moar HEAT.

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DSCF0670 by scaryoldcortina, on Flickr

Huh. Something landed on the lighter. Ah well, it's "is that the time?" time anyway. Cars away, lock up, go home, BATH.

Hopefully tomorrow will bring more fixing and less breaking stuff.
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby tone_depear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:30 pm

Scrap it, etc.
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby tone_depear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:31 pm

*please don't actually scrap it.

yet
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby Ozzy Mandeus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:57 pm

tone_depear wrote:*please don't actually scrap it.

yet


I can't anyway, you have the logbook.

Don't worry, it will all work out! It isn't the first time this has happened - order of business for tomorrow is as follows. (you can assume that if any step works, the rest are not done)

1 - heat the remains of the bolt and use molegrips
2 - drill down bolt and use an easyout (and more heat)
3 - Swear a lot, then cut the car open with a grinder to access the captive nut inside the chassis - chisel it off.
4 - Weld in new captive nut, weld up hole in car.

It's mondeo clutch change all over again!
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby tone_depear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:23 pm

Ozzy Mandeus wrote:It's mondeo clutch change all over again!


:shock:
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby Ozzy Mandeus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:27 pm

That's the other time you really, really don't want the subframe bolts to shear off in the captive nuts, but they do anyway. Hence the reason no-one wants to do one.
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby tone_depear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:37 pm

Have we* established if the engine's fucked yet? :oops:
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby Ozzy Mandeus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:49 pm

It starts and runs, and doesn't throw its coolant out. It's probably* fine.

tbh, not even got round to checking the oil. Don't worry about it, I'm not.
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Re: M(H)GF WC Longbridge Roadster

Postby tone_depear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:58 pm

Right you are. :D
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